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#cleopatra with the nose knocked off. I wonder if people still think she was European like the movies betray…

I still think it’s one of the most desperate things whites have done to blacks and to black history. The disrespect is outrageous. They came to our country and mentally could not fathom how these black civilizations could be so great. They literally rode through our lands and shot the noses off of our statues. Why? So that the statues would no longer resemble the African people and they could LIE about the origins of Egypt and countless other civilizations. It was a widespread practice. It’s why statues of Pharaoh’s and their wives have no noses. It’s why the Sphinx has no nose. When I was in middle and high school, we were taught that the noses had fell off due to time and poor craftsmanship! They have literally tried to teach us that our ancestors were shitty builders of noses just to hide their malicious destruction of our heritage. European fears of African peoples had to come from somewhere. I want to know what part of the history is missing. There’s something that they don’t want to be told.

The shade is real

i was taught that the noses fell off as well and actually continued to believe this. in retrospect this makes no sense, considering greek/roman statues pretty much always have intact noses whereas egyptian ones are always conveniently missing theirs. thank you for pointing this out to me, i hadn’t even made that connection until now.

The bolded was me too and I am seriously embarrassed that I never even thought about how that could be false.

Damnnn. I hate myself for not realizing this.

    I hate myself even more, since I know the ancient Egyptians created their sculptural works with the idea of permanence in mind. They were literally built to last throughout the afterlife. Notice how the majority of their monumental sculpture is stone-bound, without any protruding elements or breakable appendages. That’s because many of these sculptures were intended to house the life-force (Ka) of those they portrayed. Of their favorite materials were basalt and diorite, both extremely hard stones that were incredibly difficult to carve. Meaning a nose just doesn’t “fall off” because of “poor craftsmanship,” you would literally have to take a hammer to it. Fuckers.

Cleopatra was black, she was as black as Cicely Tyson. -Paul Mooney

Don’t hate yourself, and don’t be embarrassed. This is one of the biggest things that they have done to try and uphold the myth of Black inferiority/White supremacy. Erasing Blackness is what they’ve been doing since Day 1. They’ve done it then, they do it now, and they’ll keep doing it until the world ends. 

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, TUMBLR? Without putting any research into the history of ancient free-standing sculpture, you automatically associate nose-chipping with race-related issues. Well, let me tell you, one of my former professors is an expert in Roman art history, and I asked the same question once. This is what he told me:

1. It doesn’t matter who made the sculpture, the nose is almost always the first part of a sculpture to deteriorate. 

It’s not a sign of poor craftsmanship, it’s just the natural wearing down of stone over hundreds of years. And the nose is the weakest part of any free-standing sculpture, whether it be Egyptian, Roman, Greek, or modern. It’s basically a tiny piece of meticulously-carved stone that barely hangs on to the wide face and sticks out like a sore thumb (or should I say, sore nose?). It’s very fragile. So when a statue is exposed to weather or chemical elements over a long period of time and begins to deteriorate, the nose usually falls off first, followed by clothing that sticks out and carried objects, followed by the head and limbs.

In this case, this Cleopatra statue has been underwater for over two millennia. Of course the water is going to wear the stone down and of course the first thing that’s going to fall off is the nose.

2. Do not say Roman/Greek.

Don’t equate the two. They are separate time periods, separate contexts, and separate styles. Say Roman and Greek.

3. Greek and Roman sculpture has also seen a fair amount of human-made damage.

There’s one thing that should always be considered when looking at art. And that is context. It’s hard to find a piece of art from history that hasn’t seen any sort of damage due to something that happened in its past. And it should be emphasized that racism is not the only cause, people.

Egyptian pharaohs that disliked a past pharaoh would sometimes have their tomb sculptures destroyed or disfigured to humiliate them in death. Civilizations that conquered them would defile the tombs of pharaohs and loot them. Greek sculptures were often melted down for scrap metal or thrown into the sea. Roman sculpture was often stolen. During the late 1800s and early 1900s, hundreds of English, American, French, etc. museums horrendously chipped off pieces of beautiful Roman, Greek, and Egyptian sculpture to attract paying customers. Lots of places saw heavy damage, not just in Egypt.

For example, did you know the Greek Parthenon once had a beautiful, full pediment scene that depicted the birth of Athena? Unfortunately, it has been badly destroyed both people stealing pieces off of it, even museums that took them from their home (and noses and heads are missing!)

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Greek art doesn’t have it easy. Isn’t that right, Athena?

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Roman sculpture also saw quite a bit of damage. Look at these poor Roman Tetrarchs which are actually fairly young compared to other pieces of Roman art. They were moved around quite a bit, and look! They lost their noses in the process.

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The reason why so many Roman free-standing sculptures have been preserved is because the periods following the Imperial Roman period maintained a constant interest in Roman art and culture, and there were rarely any attempts to completely purge it or antagonize it. The Carolingian nobles adored Roman art and preserved it. The Romanesque period and the Gothic period saw the same. Italian patrons collected and protected these pieces during the Renaissance. That’s why Mr. Augustus of Prima Porta here looks perfectly fine in our modern era.

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You don’t see this sort of peace with the Greeks and the Egyptians. The Greeks had a tendency to destroy a lot of their things, while the Egyptians saw multiple invasions by the Romans, Arabs, Ottomans, and more. Had the Romans seen as many invasions as the Egyptians did, far fewer Roman sculptures would be intact. But that wasn’t the case.

But that’s not to say all remnants of Egyptian art was vandalized. Many pieces are still well-preserved, despite time.

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If you believe that all Egyptian noses were cut off because of their race, then explain to me why all these lovely portraits, obviously depicting dark-skinned Egyptians, are untouched and still beautiful…If you think most Egyptian figures have missing noses, then you’ve obviously not seen too many of them.

4. Yes, whitewashing of the ancient Egyptians happens, but missing noses are not a general identifier of that.

Has whitewashing occurred throughout history, in history books and media? Yes, it has. Does it continue to the present day? Yes to that as well. However, that has little relevance to the damage taken by an Egyptian free-standing sculpture. Noses are easily damaged in general, and Roman and Greek art HAS seen similar damage. If a nose was destroyed out of racist intent, it was a rare occurrence that was systematic, but not widespread. Don’t use one tiny photo to make a false generalization before you actually research it.

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i think the main reason why i love cap is because he jumped on the grenade. that was the best, bravest, most wonderful, selfless, amazing thing. he was just gonna save them. he was going to die in boot camp because that’s how brave he was. and tommy lee jones was wrong and stanely tucci was right. cap is so brave and good, and true. i love him, he is amazing. he has the sweetest most honest heart, he is amazing. his weapon is a shield. a shield, that’s his weapon. i’m crying

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